Hidden Intellectualism & They Say I Say (2018, WW Norton) Discussion Response Requirements are attached. 4 simple discussion responses addressing each key
Hidden Intellectualism & They Say I Say (2018, WW Norton) Discussion Response Requirements are attached. 4 simple discussion responses addressing each key question.Just fill out the attached paper with your responses. 200 word minimum per post. 4 Discussion Responses: minimum 250 words per response
Directions: Write FOUR Discussion posts in response to the questions. 200 words minimum per
post, be sure to address each key point.
Link to source youll need:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uPqtGtwF08wcxTOIhGeERht2Sac1pnVN/view?usp=sharing
Gerald Graff, Cathy Birkenstein, Russel Durst – They Say _ I Say (2018, WW Norton).pdf
drive.google.com
1.
Are too many people going to college?
What is Murray’s background? Is there anything about him that might suggest you should read him with caution?
I agree with several of his arguments. I agree with him, for instance, that some people would be happier as chefs or
carpenters rather than going to a liberal arts college. I also agree we should teach more cultural competence earlier.
Several others bother me. When he makes the argument that some people have the ability to be management,
but some other people don’t, given his background, I worry that he has categories in his head that he’s not sharing
with us.
What is his arguments about test scores? How does he view them? My impression is that he thinks that they are set
in stone. He seems to think that if, in 10th grade, you aren’t very charming, or very good with language (& by “not
very good” he often means “better than 70% of the population”) that you will never be, and you shouldn’t bother to
try. Can you think of any counter examples that might contradict this?
His primary evidence comes in the form of hypotheticals. These come in the form of stories about made up people,
who he then makes up a fate for, and explains to us that that fate was inevitable. How convincing do you find these
compared to studies and statistics, facts, or expert opinion?
Response (minimum 200 words):
1.
“Hidden Intellectualism”
What is Graff’s thesis? (I like his argument, by the way, I’m just not sure I like how he makes it)
What evidence does he use? Who is his intended audience? Surely, the evidence he picks is good evidence for him
(& he should include some of it), but how applicable is it to a modern audience? I ask this because it seems to me
that one chooses celebrities to discuss because they will make the paper more engaging for your audience, but how
does it limit this engagement when they are celebrities from the 50s?
How applicable are his suggestions? I think some of them are great, but how would they be implemented in the
classroom? Is there anything that would have to change to make them work?
Response (minimum 200 words):
3. “Two Years are Better than Four”
What is Addison’s qualification to write this piece? Do you think it would give you a good prospective on the topic
(I don’t think it makes her an expert, but I do think it makes her qualified)?
Take a brief look at the essay she starts out responding to, “What’s the Matter with College?” Is the part that she’s
responding to a central concern of that writer? Do you think there are any points she makes that he would strongly
disagree with?
What does she argue? How does she make her case?
Response (minimum 200 words):
4. In this discussion board, please share with us what you found interesting, useful, or confusing in Chapter 5
“…and Yet…” Also, let’s try to figure out anything confusing about the Source Research paper.
What do you understand from the chapter about “voice markers”?
How do they distinguish your voice from those you are quoting? Why is this important?
What do they say about the use of the word “I”? What is their rational for this argument?
Response (minimum 200 words)
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